Wow...thanks guys for your questions and comments. I could see that people had visited over the past months but hadn't heard from anyone until recently. Helps me know I'm not alone! Hopefully we can help each other.
I've had a few questions from people today, so I'm going to post my answers publicly.
1) First of all, someone asked if we use probiotics. Both girls have been using these daily (unless I forget) for over a year now. I'm not sure if it helps with the MRSA, but I know it helps both girls with tummy troubles.
2) Bleach baths, alcohol, hydrogen peroxide? Both girls haven't taken a bath in probably 8 months or so. We have strictly been doing showers. The reason for this is actually at my husbands suggestion. They both have eczema and if they have MRSA on their skin and get in the bathtub, then the MRSA will be floating around and getting into their broken skin. We did do bleach water "spray downs" in the shower before Hibiclens, but found it hard to manage since it was so watery. It was hard to tell if we got them good without getting it in their eyes. I actually had forgotten about the bleach water treatments? I may have to look into that as an alternative to the Hibiclens...I wonder if it would have less of an anti-bacterial effect? I'll have to check into that. Oh, for you guys using HIBICLENS, you can get it from drugstore.com for about 1/2 of what it costs at the drugstores, AND the last order came with a pump top that makes it foamy, so it's much easier to apply and you use much, much less. It comes in a 16 oz bottle for about the same price as an 8oz bottle at the drug store. Thanks Pippi, for the bleach reminder...I will check into that. As far as alcohol goes, we have used this sometimes, but since both girls have eczema...it stings!!! I have been researching hydrogen peroxide. The negative I've heard so far is that it does some damage to cells and keeps it from healing really well...but sometimes we just have to pick the best of the worst...so to speak. We have occasionally used hydrogen peroxide. I'm not sure how it compares to Hibiclens....not sure which is better to use and is least likely to cause resistance? More research to do! Note to self: Research effects of hibiclens, bleach, and hydrogen peroxide.
3) Pictures. Someone asked if I could repost the pictures. I just checked and they are still there. If you scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, it plays them as a slideshow. If it has already scrolled through the pictures, you just click on "View All Images" and it will take you to a page to look at them all. I'm still figuring out these widgets....there probably is a better way. I also will try to remember to take pictures next time. I always think of it after the fact since there's so much to do during a breakout...laundry, showers, medicine, lotions, band-aids, clean-up, etc.
4) For Stingray....I really empathize with you! It is so hard to have a child wake multiple times a night itching and scratching and bleeding. We even taped socks onto her hands and feet trying to keep it under control. She would touch something playing in the park and start itching and turning red. When we go for a walk in the woods they know not to touch anything without asking! We've had to leave places from them touching something and then breaking out in hives! It can be rather frustrating. I will be praying for your family!...Also, She use to turn red around her mouth after eating almost anything.The allergies have been getting better since seeing our alternative doctor guy...I think I wrote about him in past posts. The thing he did that helped the most was treating her for parasites. Yes, I said parasites!!! Apparently this is a common problem that doctors don't even look for, but within a couple days we saw dramatic improvement. I would suggest trying this if you're up for it. I actually have a friend who's 12 year old suddenly started getting patches of eczema. They went to doctor after doctor trying to figure out what was causing it, with no help. I suggested her using the parasite syrup and it went away completely. It's not expensive and could give your 4yo some relief. It did help my 4yo dramatically, but we still have eczema issues. She does sleep through the night most nights now! We are hopeful once we get through the other allergy treatments, she will be even better. It's called Dr. Christophers Parasite syrup. I would give my 4yo 1/2 tsp. morning and night for 3 days, take 2 days off, 3 more days, 2 days off, then 3 more days. The two day breaks are to let any eggs hatch. (I know, YUK!). Of course, check the label for ingredients since your child is super sensitive, but it contains all herbal stuff. Doesn't taste great, but we kept it in the fridge...that helps. You could have her chase it with something she likes to help with the taste? We used a medicine syringe and squirt it down. The thing that helped most at night for itching was lanacane...it has a mild numbing agent it in. Also, calendula oil seems really soothing. And, after trying every moisturizer, butter, cream, etc, we found vaseline the most helpful (and it's cheap)...plus, it didn't have lots of things in there that they could have allergic reactions to. Just a couple suggestions that helped for us!
5) Fresh Air - Someone asked if we think our FreshAir from Ecoquest is working. This machine uses ozone and UV light to kill germs. It has been proven to kill MRSA in lab tests. I think it has helped us by keeping us healthy (cold/flu). I'm not sure how much it helps will MRSA on the skin? We did turn a corner at the beginning of the year, just after getting the machine...not sure how much it has to do with it though. I think it helps with allergies too! I just realized this comment was left a while ago, but never saw it...sorry!
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YES, we're reading! Keep it up!
Another promising new "bullet" is Agricur - a French clay. Anyone know where we can get this???
Scientists in England have discovered a new and highly effective weapon against deadly superbugs like the MRSA sweeping through dirty hospital wards – green French muck.
The dramatic antibiotic success of agricur, a clay made from ancient volcanic ash found in the mountains of central France, marks it out as a potential rival to penicillin, the wonder drug of the 20th century. In experiments, the clay killed up to 99 per cent of superbug colonies within 24 hours.
Scientists have been searching for new antibiotics to replace penicillin, methicillin and their relatives but until now have had only limited success. Agricur's discovery could lead to a whole class of antibiotics to which bugs such as MRSA have no resistance, according to scientists.
Dr. Lynda Williams and Dr. Shelley Haydel of Arizona State University presented the results of their research on agricur and other clays to the Geological Society of America's annual meeting in Denver last week, on October 28.
The effectiveness of the French green clays, which are mostly made of minerals called smectite and illite, was first demonstrated by Line Brunet de Courssou, a French doctor fighting buruli at clinics in Ivory Coast and Guinea.
When she approached the WHO in 2002 with 50 case studies showing how the flesh-eating disease had been halted by her clay poultices, the organisation described her work as "impressive" but denied her funding because of a lack of scientific evidence. After de Courssou's death, her son, Thierry, went looking on the internet for scientists willing to test Agricur and found Dr. Williams, who has specialised in the study of clay.
Here's 2 flower extracts that are claimed to be effective against MRSA:
The CIT researchers found that Elecampane, also called Horse-heal (Inula helenium) or Marchalan, is 100% effective against MRSA colonies.
The second flower, Pulsatilla vulgaris, also known as Dane’s Blood or Pasque flower, was also “highly effective” against MRSA. The pair of wildflowers was tested against 300 different varieties of staphylococci bacteria, commonly known as Staph.
Another possible MRSA fighter:
Studies show that alka vita kills MRSA 100% and can heal the wound.
The relief is inexpensive, and if you do not have MRSA, this will insure that you do not get it.
The most sure way to get rid of MRSA is to drink the diluted concentrate and spray the infected area as often as possible.
Cisne Enterprises, Inc. of Odessa, Texas announced today the development of a new product that offers a possible solution to the MRSA crisis. Cisne has developed a body lotion, body spray, and nasal wash with an ingredient that inhibits the growth of MRSA 100%. In addition, these products also showed the same results with five other dangerous bacteria including E.Coli, Salmonella, and streptococcus strains. A study completed by the Biological Sciences Department of a Texas university concluded that the active ingredient in Cisne’s Alka Vita products, Alkahydroxy, inhibits the growth of these bacterial colonies and the infections that can result. The Texas university laboratory study is also supported by an additional independent study conducted by an internationally recognized laboratory in Mexico.
Cisne’s patent pending active ingredient, AlkaHydroxy, is a modified formulation of elemental silicon and forms the base line for the Alka Vita products. Proven non toxic, non corrosive, safe and effective, the Alka Vita product line may fight dangerous bacteria. These products do not contain any alcohol, chlorine, or ammonia. The Alka Vita products are effective and inexpensive.
Patients need the spray, and the concentrate to drink to have to heal from the inside out and not just treat the symptom.
$40.00 plus shipping
Obviously, this "infomercial" is largely self-promotional, but who knows? I think whoever's reading these should give these different alternatives a shot and report back if anything works.. Let's nail down an effective protocol with the key ingredients to cure this b**ch!
Magnesium also seems to be important, especially if you are on antibiotics:
I have been digging deeper for info on MRSA and have found that magnesium is good to take, it somehow (with the ph level) fights bacteria (such as mrsa) - Staceyt
Antibiotics and poor digestive tract absorption will cause a magnesium deficiency. Antibiotics kill off beneficial organisms in the gut, causing loose bowels, which decreases absorption.
"Antibiotics can also lower magnesium availability - liileah
Does Dr. Hudson think it's healthy to eradicate all bacteria on our skin? Or are there lots of healthy flora on our skin that also keep us healthy - that we wouldn't want to kill?
As I understand it healthy human cells neutralize the H2O2 once it enters the cell, so it only kills bad bacteria. For example, this is how Vit C selectively kills cancer ... dissociates into H2O2 within cell walls, killing the cancer cells, but not the human cells.
Of the anti-biotics you mentioned I think H2O2 is about the safest thing you can put on your skin.
As for us (most of our 5 kids have had MRSA) we're finally pulling out all the stops now that #3 is back in the hospital for it. It's either a weekly bleach bath (1/2 cup in 1/4 full tub) or a weekly bleach rubdown followed by a bath. Resistant super strains of bacteria result from weaker antibacterials or intermittent usage but if you're consistent (like weekly usage) and use a strong antibacterial (like bleach) nothing survives but the person, and with a good rinse the person should have no side effects.
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