Sunday, November 2, 2008

What should you do??


I had a comment from a family in Florida that has just started their journey with MRSA with their 4yo. I pray it will be short for them! I've been thinking about doing a post re-capping what has worked best for us and what we use on a normal basis, so this comment has led me to do just that.

So..what would I do if I knew then what we know now? (just my opinion, from experience, not medical expertise!)

1) Wash hands frequently with regular soap - we use alcohol to spray down hard surfaces in the bathroom after showers.

2) Wash all towels and clothes after the first use (even dress up clothes) - it's a lot of laundry but MRSA multiplies very quickly. No sharing towels (we've even started using paper towels after washing our hands). Wash in hot water and dry on high heat for a long cycle. We dry on high for 90 minutes. I found in some research online that it takes about 30 minutes on high heat to kill the MRSA, so I make sure it's drying for about 30 minutes after the clothes are completely dry. I change sheets once a week. I have at times changed them everyday, but didn't see any difference, so went back to once a week for sanity's sake!

4) Keep wounds covered with band-aids or bandages that are sealed on all 4 sides so no pus can escape. We have found Band-Aid brand Ultra Care the best for smaller ones and use gauze and tape for larger ones.

3) We avoid antibiotics if at all possible. Sometimes just draining it is enough. We learned this the hard way. There were many times where the girls were off antibiotics for just a couple days before new spots appeared. Both girls now have candida (too much yeast overgrowth from a lack of good bacteria to keep it under control) from all the antibiotics and that can cause lot of other issues. There are times where antibiotics are necessary, but we are grateful they haven't been on them since February (May for me). We have had plenty of spots and a hand full of times that I thought one of us would end up on antibiotics, but we've been able to get them to go away without antibiotics. If you really need antibiotics, use Clindamyacin if your MRSA responds to it. The microbiologist I spoke to about MRSA said it's one of the very few antibiotics that enter human cells to get the infection there. I also take Milk Thistle with the antibiotics that helps it enter the cell better (from what my alternative doc tells me). If you can't use Clindamyacin (it is more expensive), take Bactrim or Septra with the milk thistle. It will help it get into the cell and work there.

4) Turmeric really helps with the inflammation and seems to help the pus dry up...one of the best results we've seen. Both my girls can swallow pills now (we taught our 4 yo out of necessity recently - have them look down when swallowing instead of up. The pills float so looking down makes them go to the back of the throat for when you swallow). If they have any spots I'll give them up to 6 pills twice a day. You may be able to find this as a liquid or add it to juice or chocolate milk or something if you can't swallow pills.

5) Hibiclens. As much as I don't like the fact that this is a type of antibacterial, we have found it keeps us from having to use oral antibiotics. For months last year we would do a whole body Hibiclens, but now we just do spots. We want to leave as much good bacteria on the skin as possible and it works just as well as a whole body Hibiclens rub down. We order this from www.drugstore.com and it comes with a pump top that makes it foamy and is much easier to apply. I would recommend showers instead of baths so you are not sitting in the bacteria, it can be washed off and down the drain in the shower.

6) Probiotics - This is basically good bacteria that lives in your gut. Especially important if you are taking antibiotics to help keep up the good bacteria since antibiotics kill both good and bad bacteria. Don't take it at the same time as your antibiotics though because the antibiotics will just kill it. We usually take them right before lunch time. We rotate between Natren and Udo brand and both girls take these everyday.

6) Manuka Honey Ointment. We have been using this on any small spots and it really seems to help. The ointment is only 40% manuka honey, so it's not as sticky as the 100% stuff. If you have a large open wound, go with the 100% manuka honey, but for small spots the 40% seems to work well. We use the ointment found at www.manukahoneyusa.com

7) Tea Tree Oil and Colloidal Silver - We use the Manuka honey more often but rotate and use these in between. Tea tree oil can burn, so the manuka honey is easier to use on the kids. Colloidal silver seems to really help, but it seems to need an open wound to get in there and do it's job.

I hope that's not too overwhelming and that I haven't left anything out. I think the best thing we've found so far is the combination of turmeric orally and manuka honey on the wound in addition to good hygiene.

I have learned over the course of this struggle that I can't fix it. It's hard not to be able to "fix" what's hurting your children. It took me at least a year to realize this, but I now know. I am committed to keep looking for new information and pray for direction from the Lord for healing and direction on what to do next. I have learned a lot and my girls have grown through this. I hope and pray that one day in the future, I will be able to share our victory with those suffering along with us!

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

I just spent two days in hospital being treated by IV for an infection on my elbow that the doctor suspects is MRSA. (I should hear the results of the cultures today or tomorrow.) I've been doing some research on the internet and came across your website. I've read the "How it all started" and your November blog on what you do to keep it at bay.

Your blog has been extremely useful. I appreciate your desciption of all the things you do to prevent an outbreak and will be using some of these ideas to expand our own "arsenal".

I always pictured MRSA as looking like the big swollen thing that I'm dealing with on my arm. I was surprised to learn about the reoccurrence of small boils that you have been able to treat with tea tree oil etc. My son has had some similar little bumps on his body lately. I've assumed its just an irritation or rash, but I'm going to take a much closer look at these to see if it could be MRSA.

In my own research I came across a study done in London where they have effectively used an extract from garlic called Allicin. Have you heard of this? Most of the available garlic products have destroyed the allicin in the manufacturing process, but a microbiologist (Dr Cutler, I think) has found a way to stabilize it, and they now make tablets, cream, spray, and liquid. The people in the study had MRSA that did not respond to antibiotic treatment, and I think they used a combination of pills and the cream. It seems to be very successful, but not well known yet in the USA. I found a place online that sells the stabilized allicin products and am going to keep them on hand. Maybe this would be worthwhile to add to your own arsenal?

Thanks for helping me -- hope I can be of help back.
In His Service,
Julia

Anonymous said...

Hopefully my previous post went through. Here is a link to an article about allicin. The stabilized form created by the microbiologist is available in the brand name AlliMax.

I lift you and your family up in prayer today. I can get so overwhelmed just by the normal grunge work of life, it's amazing what you are doing to deal with your family's health issues.

May He sustain you and be the "lifter of your head" today


Link:
http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/medizin_gesundheit/bericht-24405.html

love,
Julia

Anonymous said...

Bless your soul for this wonderful resource. It has been incredibly beneficial to me. I pray for you and your family that we may become MRSA free!!!

Anonymous said...

Hi it's me again.

As I've been researching Allicin, I discovered that the product that has been used to effectively eliminate MRSA and prevent recurrance is called AlliMed. They also make a product called AlliMax, but the Allimed is much more potent (medical strength). It is also much harder to come by, and more expensive.
Here is their website:
http://www.allimax.us/index.htm

The UK company (allimax.com) seems to sell it much much cheaper, but not sure if they will ship overseas or perhaps only sell it to medical professionals.

The more I research the more I believe that this product may truly make a difference for your family and others.

Julia

SuperNinjaMommy said...

Thank you for this... I started getting mrsa boils when I was 25, the ER doc told me it was a "woman thing and it just happened." I kept getting them for a few months then it went away. Im 29 now, I have a three year old and a one year old. My three year old has MRSA and has been getting regular boils every few months since he was just turned two, and the first boil appeared on my one year olds knee yesterday. While my husband and stepdaughter remain boil/rash free.. in OCT of 08 I had my first reinfection ... in my LIP and now three months later I have it again in my knee.

While my children have an AMAZING doctor and he always gets us through the painful boils.. his advice is wash our hands.

Your page has taken me a step farther and given me more things that I can do to help move my family along to perhaps fewer outbreaks.

Thank you.

I found this while searching this morning (my boil on my knee is painful so im awake) What do you think of it?

http://www.amazon.com/StaphAseptic-First-Aid-Antiseptic/dp/B000FUZIMU/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i

- Thank you again,
The Radio Family

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Florida - watch out for the beach!

Cathy said...

Hello everyone,

Our family was viciously attacked by MRSA and we nearly lost all of our lives.
We almost lost our oldest son to it within 72 hrs.
MRSA also attacked my youngest son and myself.
The boils that my son's had grew to the size of small grapefruits and destroy the flesh in the surrounding area.

As you can imagine we were horrified. We sought out medical intervention and antibiotics failed to help. our doctor threw several antibiotics at my son's infection. The antibiotics failed to keep the infection from coming back.
After speaking to an infectious disease doctor, doing my own research and networking with others struggling with MRSA,
I came to the conclusion that MRSA is rapidly evolving and becoming resistant to all antibiotics.
At that point we decided to run from this vicious cycle of throwing antibiotics at an antibiotic resistant infection.
We prayed and researched until we found something that would save our family.
MRSA was literally eating away at us and what we found stopped MRSA from killing us. It is called Allimed, stable allicin.
This is the first time in history that allicin in garlic has been stabilized.
Since we used Allimed we did not need further medical care though we informed our doctors of our decision and continued under their observation.
We dealt with MRSA ourselves and have not had it return for any of us in 3 years.
Before using Allimed the boils were coming every few weeks.

If we are to survive this era of resistant bacteria, then we will have to think outside the box. What once saved us from infections (antibiotics), is now killing us. The very nature of antibiotics encourage bacterial resistance.
Shortly after Penicillin was discovered, bacteria became resistant and now we find ourselves in the vicious cycle of throwing more and more antibiotics at resistant bacteria. http://www.fda.gov/Fdac/features/795_antibio.html

We must see that the era of antibiotic success is now leaving us. If we don't have our eyes wide open, mankind may not survive this pandemic.
I hope our story will help to save lives as our family was saved.
Since our family's recovery, we have been helping others to recover worldwide.
I welcome emails from anyone who wants our help.
God bless, Cathy
Cathy@optimalhealthusa.com
MRSA info and our recovery:
www.optimalhealthusa.com

Scientific Research Files:
Current news reports regarding stable allicin:
250 people recover from MRSA using stable Allicin:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365884,00.html

Current news reports regarding stable allicin:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7531978.stm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6C6aEyrYk

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KSObBa5b0Bw&feature=related

EUROPEAN SOCIETY OF CLINICAL MICROBIOLOGY
http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/eccmid15/abstract.asp?id=37436

Abstract, Dr. Ronald Cutler:
http://optimalhealthusa.com/files/ALLICIN_MRSA_DRCutler_Paper_1_.pdf